Caution: Please Read The Articles You are Commenting on
I take time reading the articles I am commenting on. For sure, the authors of the articles I read will appreciate it and I will avoid making absurd comments.
Making Comments
I am compelled to write this article upon finding out that many of Triond writers seem not to care at all in making their comments. I do not want to offend anybody but there are at least five cases where I saw many writers making a very glaring mistake of making comments which are inappropriate. Instead of helping them or the writer, it brings into question their integrity as a reader. I could say that many writers have not even read even a little of the article they visited before making comments.
Although we want to reciprocate to our fellow writer’s work by making comments on their articles when they do make comments on ours, I believe we should be honest enough to point out that our fellow writers are doing something that will destroy the integrity of Triond as a writing site. We are encouraged to make constructive remarks, but we are not prevented from pointing out deliberate attempts to post an obvious spam.
Evidences
Here are the evidences of my allegation:
First, the comments are so short and the same almost all of the time. Is this some sort of copy and paste scheme?
Second, the comments made do not match the content of the article being commented on. A word of caution though: there are some writers who have not put across their ideas clearly. This leads to misunderstanding of their article which eventually they think their article was not read.
Third, and most important, a very glaring mistake that questions the integrity of the commenter: Writing positive feedback to an article that is incomprehensible, illogical, and most probably a product of an automated word rearranger. Clearly, there is a mismatch in the comments and the quality of the article. So what will that figure out to the one making comments?
There are software applications available in the internet that jumble the words in an article to come up with a unique article, which, unfortunately is just plain garbled language or crap without the needed refinements from the writer. Garbled language may not be the intention of the programmer. However, some people converted it into a spam software. Other writer’s articles were converted into indeed unique articles that do not make any sense at all.
Spamming
Encouraging these kinds of work is tantamount to spamming the whole writing platform. And I think this is one of the major reasons why Bukisa had become stricter with its writing policies and came up with a new spam filtering system whose effectivity remains to be seen. Many writers (or if they deserve to be called that) are spamming the site. They were forced to lower their index for payment. This becomes a problem with very high traffic writing sites. How can a few staff manning the platform keep up with hundreds of thousands of writers and stop spam in its tracks?
I hope this does not happen to a large extent in Triond and I hope they have an effective spam filtering system. Let us be vigilant and keep this site filled with quality articles. In the long run, keeping it so will redound to the benefit of everybody. Stop spam before it becomes worse.
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March 3rd, 2010 at 5:29 pm
You are so right! A good comment motivates us to do better knowing that others appreciates our work. You are also right about spammers and there’s a lot of them here.
March 3rd, 2010 at 5:31 pm
I try my best to get around to read all.
March 3rd, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Yes I have left comments that either relct the story or simply thanks them for sharing. There are ones where I have neededd to alert them to English writing and avise them to read them through before releasing their articles. At Writing .com I would rate and offer cricism on many articles which is a positive thing.
March 3rd, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Reading articles is just a great way to get better at writing at your own articles.
March 3rd, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Spammers lurks everywhere. A thought provoking post, kabayan.
March 3rd, 2010 at 7:36 pm
I agree with you
March 3rd, 2010 at 8:41 pm
This is very true and and thank you for making it clear for everyone.
March 3rd, 2010 at 8:42 pm
It is quite noticeable here at Triond who the spammers are. They usually give the same kind of generic comments. I hope we never see the fall of Triond because of spammers and fraudsters. We are already experiencing a plunge in our stats. Thanks for bringing this up.
March 3rd, 2010 at 9:22 pm
This also goes back to your previous article in which you discuss proof reading and editing. I have noticed that many bookmarking sites will not accept our articles because of spamming and poor quality. I think also if a person if afraid of making comments that might embarrass the writer, then send them a message in their inbox of ways the may help improve their writing. I believe your article is well presented and honesty will only help all of us.
Blessings,
Chris
March 3rd, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Thank you everyone for your additional inputs and encouragement.
@Alma, I do detest spammers as reading articles posted by them is vexation to my mind.
@ceegirl, it’s great knowing that.
@peter, thanks for helping out.
@giovanni, I appreciate your effort to improve.
@athena, it’s sad to hear stats are going down.
@ChrisS, thank you for the suggestion.
March 3rd, 2010 at 10:56 pm
I agree with your words.
March 4th, 2010 at 12:00 am
I have seen some pepole use the same comments on every article they comment on.
March 4th, 2010 at 12:39 am
I am agree with you, but not all Trionder is good in English, like sometime difficult to express in English. It is not like they writing their article, they can take vocabulary or translater program. It is good to appreciate everyone commenting in your article, because they are have visited your article and maybe make contribution to promote your article, more comment what ever it is will increase your rank
March 4th, 2010 at 2:57 am
Thanks for responding to this issue.
@apagung, I have seen improvement in your work. What I’m referring to are those who deliberately post without the reader in mind. Even though some writers have difficulty in English, I appreciate their effort to share ideas; and I am thankful for that.At least, articles should make sense.
March 4th, 2010 at 4:09 am
I agree with you 150% some fellow writers/bloggers leave the same comment regardless of the material written about, without mentioning names a fellow writer, wrote about the death of a partner. To which the commenter wrote “Good share nice work keep it up”! did they mean I hope someone else dies in your life? its extremely important to read the work you comment on. If your pushed for time dont comment! LB
March 4th, 2010 at 4:47 am
Thanks for sharing your opinion, I am happy anyone evens take time to view my work and I know that most of it is not genuine, but that on them. If we continue to complain about the comments possibly people will stop viewing the work because they fee their efforts are not appreciated. This is just my opinion.
March 4th, 2010 at 6:38 am
thanks for sharing……..
March 4th, 2010 at 7:35 am
Some people leave short comments just to let the writer know they did read the article. The short comments don’t bother me as much as the ones that clearly show that the article has not been read.
March 4th, 2010 at 8:06 am
Points well stated and it is interesting to see that the resulting comments were mostly a sentence or two in length.
March 4th, 2010 at 8:19 am
A great article that was long overdue. I hate it when everything i write, someone will always comment “interesting write”. This just assures me that they either didn’t take the time to read it, or they didn’t like it and was trying to be nice. I would rather someone point out my mistakes, or say they didn’t like it than to comment, Interesting write. Thanks for stepping to the plate Patrick. Well done.
March 4th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Thanks for airing your predicaments too my Friends. I understand each one has his/her own viewpoint about things. Since I started to enjoy reading other writers’ articles, I have been looking forward for a great write from everyone.
@Lord Banks, I never thought that a great blunder like that could happen.
@diamondpoet, I understand some people take time to at least see our articles and that’s appreciated.
@martie, got your point.
@hfj, I have a similar sentiment. I know not everyone will be pleased with the article but it’s great to know how other writers think about the issue. This is the reason why we write: to share something that we know or want to express and also learn from others through their comments.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
I look forward to the comments on my articles but am usually disappointed because the comments are useless. A comment should be constructive or at the very least be related to the article. Thanks for putting this in writing for everyone to read. I hope people listen.
March 5th, 2010 at 6:50 am
Very awesome write. Some people have help me where I miss up my spelling or was not coherent enough. Yes, everyone should these thoughts in mind when writng up comments for our articles.
Thanks Lee ness
March 5th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Great recipe!! Hehe, just kidding.
March 5th, 2010 at 9:05 am
This is a very good article and two fold. I have seen the same comments from some readers. However, I do read and comment accordingly. But Triond is Internationally diverse in the writers here that spread through out through our world. I read articles for content of the message presented.It is education of the truest form in the eyes of a writer.
Triond adds errors to formatting and uploading sometimes too, which is not spam but their technical faults. If I do preview a bad article of alot of grammar errors; I still give a good comment of effort because someone is trying and send a discreet email to help them. Without discreet emails to help them learn; how will they grow as a writer, it doesn’t make them any less of a writer. Especially, if they have good content and a message within their writing.
I feel as a writer we hold responsibilities to help assist others and that is how we all grow as writers. How many email them in discreet or advise them non-publically?
It is not a craft that should be just for the elite or educated and not all Triond errors on articles are spam, technical errors and lack of knowing how to use sentences, punctuation and capitalization properly. When we view the content of the important messages given; then we begin to learn how to assist others; even in writing. Very good article of insight you have written but there are more issues to Triond than allowing writers freedom of speech with improper formats and comments of repetition.
For the rates that all Triond writers are paid on their content per views; I feel that you get what you pay for; but it is up to all of us to assist one another to be the best writers we can be and then we all grow and prosper as a team, not in isolation, but in education.
March 5th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Cynthia Cox has written a wonderful appropriate comment for the observations made in the article. Short comments not always mean the articles are not read.
March 5th, 2010 at 9:29 am
I try best to read and understand what I am reading, however, I do
not understand everything I read. Yes we should read the article and understand so can say what we like.
March 5th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Thank you for opening up this forum and you are so right. I have had articles with a great number of views and only one or two comments. Just knowing that people are reading my articles is reward in its self, real comments are a bonus and likes are the ice cream on the cake. Nonplus comments are easy to spot and uninspirational. Even just the word good can be valuable if its genuine. Some phrases are so repetitive and out of place that thier superficialness just jumps out and slaps you. The few and far between real comments are priceless.
Token comments well, you know!
March 5th, 2010 at 10:37 am
I like this article & try to comment as best I can. I try & view as many articles as I can in a day. Some times I am brief & other times I am not. & Quite a few times I will not even comment as I prefer to say nothing rather than give negative feedback. Some comments I have received for my work are fantastic & they really do help. I really do hope that when i comment people do take that for the praise that is intended? Good write.
March 5th, 2010 at 10:48 am
I’m so glad that you were able to point this out and then construct your thoughts quite clearly so as to point it out to others. I had also noticed this trend going on, but could not seem to pin point exactly what it was. You were dead-on.
March 5th, 2010 at 10:54 am
This article is so timely. The spamming has been getting exponentially more prevelent in the last month or so. I have noticed articles that are obviously garbled, and there are already a dozen or more short, generic comments from users who have no personal information on their profile pages.
Note -these articles are easily distinguished from articles written by people who know their topic but just have trouble with English.
Advice: if you get a new fan, look up their profile page before reciprocating (adding them as your friend). If there is no profile picture, no personal information, but they have a high number of friends, and your picture is on the 10th page even though they only added you today- don’t add them.
Sorry for writing a book on your article’s comment section, Patrick, but I have one more piece of advice: BEWARE OF OFFERS to help you make more money, like “I will click all of your articles everyday if you will do the same for me.” This is not only unethical, but illegal – the advertisers spend money so that people will see their ads, and you are cheating them.
March 5th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Truly a great article. Fact is that commenting is hard and sometimes you just like to say something to show you have read the article.
There are many who just comment general like “Good article”. This will not tell if they had read it. Mostly I do read articles, but I must admit I sometimes do not know what to reply, but keep it general too.
I personally do not ask people to read my articles, but do read others and many are great.
And about the foreign thing: I am also not a native English writer and I really do my best to write as well as I can and to edit as good as possible.
Still I lately had an article declined here on Triond for not being readable enough. The funny thing isI reposted it on Helium with less trouble and I do feel they have a higher standard. Does this makes sense?
And I sometimes find mistakes in published articles. Maybe this proves we are human?
March 5th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
A great article tuching on a subject I deal alot in on another site.
I bleeive that if you only read a small part of the article you should comment but only on spelling and gramma if its a story. But when its an article reading it fully two or three times to make sure you understand its contents is the best way to go before commenting.
Thanks for sharing.
March 5th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
I agree 100% with the points of this article, I’ve seen what you mention and wish Triond was a bit more strict with content. I do my best to comment but if I find that I am running short on time, I prefer to not read the article and leave it for later when I can give it honest attention.
March 5th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
I think it’s hilarious that everyone who answered this post has put a long comment.
My personal favourite is when someone says, “Nice poem” or something else just as stupid, when the work was a full-length article or story.
Good article. We must remember, though, that Triond is NOT a writing site. It is simply a marketing site looking to get paid through web advertising. The fact that is nabs writers is just a scheme, because there are tons of people out there who want to be recognized as writers, and it’s obvious.
March 5th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Firstly, Triond is a publishing site. It publishes work hand ads off of. It doesn’t care about the writing. Anything can be published, and is.
The ‘great write’ comment, either posted by the ‘writer’, (term used loosely) duals or by someone who expects you to click on their work and return the ‘favor’.
March 5th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
That was garbled.
Let me try again.
As Triond does not care about the writing, it cares about having a venue to post ads. To get more pennies people click on each others work, type; ‘good write’ and expect to get a ‘good write’ in return.
This is why Triond is losing support
March 5th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
It would be nice to see some kind of artical criteria so that quality articles were produced and the spam-type of article eliminated.
As for comments, there seems to be individuals you post the same one or two words at the foot of every article. One wonders if they ever read anything here or if they are just passing time.
When someone takes the time to leave a good comment on my work, I try to make note of it and then support those writers by returning the favor and bookmarking good quality articles.
March 5th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Great article about the normative importance of state soverginity…
woops wrong article.
Seriously though I agree with you. I am not a good writer and I will admit that. Still I enjoy to write articles from time to time and even as bad as they are I appreciate that they can be published here. Even if my articles are complete crap which I am sure they mostly are I would rather someone tell me it sucks than simply say Great Post!.
Why even comment if all your going to say is something that adds nothing to the article or helps the author.
March 5th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Typo, “Sovereignty”
March 5th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
I think the integrity of Triond is already compromised. Don’t leave up to the readers and posts to remedy this. Ask not for whom the bells tolls…
else,
“nice article.”
March 5th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
I’m like Martie, I don’t mind short comments, as you can see who has visited your work. I do mind comments that say ‘nice poem’ when you’ve written a well researched article. I also strongly dislike comments that are there merely to promote one’s work by adding a link to the comment.
March 5th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Fantastic article and I can’t wait to try some of the recipes you mention…
March 5th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
I woke up this morning and was surprised to see a lot of interesting comments on this article. Each one has something to say based on his/her experience. And I learned a lot from the comments posted. I’m glad I opened a venue to air what they felt about the issue. I thank everyone for stopping by and see what’s cooking.
@Pam, free will is a difficult thing to deal with. People have a choice to listen or not to the points raised.
@Lee, I’m glad you appreciate comments that seek to help you out.
@I find that short and witty remark amusing.
@Cynthia, it’s my first time to read such a long lecture in my comments section. I appreciate the wisdom you put in it.
@chitragopi, indeed you are right.
@Netty, I had the same experience too. I try to comprehend what was written but I have difficulty some times and could not make my comment.
@Snooky, genuine comments are really encouraging.
@pete, I sometimes do make comments that get construed as negative. There is really no assurance that you put across what you intended to.
@frances, thanks for the compliment.
@Karen, thank you for your advice. I do understand that advertisers pay for the clicks. Deliberate clicks will be unfair to them. I always try to put myself in other’s shoes to have a better perspective in making decisions.
@martine, yes it’s hard to make comments at times. Even in published scientific journals, I can see some errors. That’s the human side of editing.
@nishlaverz, I agree with your observation that some articles need to be read again to understand them. And we don’t always have the luxury of time.
@marie, that’s great to know you care in making your comments.
@ML Sheldon, yes I agree with your points. I personally believe that even if we consider Triond a marketing site, it gave everyone a chance to enjoy writing and be considered as a writer. And one very important thing I appreciate is we get read globally and get to learn from other cultures.
@fesbie, that’s a good example of what I encountered.
@Athlyn, I also bookmark interesting articles. If it is long, I get back to it later after bookmarking.
@FreiBauer, many people want to see how they perform as a writer. Your first line amused me. And you took time to correct even the slightest error. That’s a caring attitude.
@thestickman, I respect your viewpoint.
@val mills, this just shows that comments are valuable to the writer.
@cathleengarvey, well, I don’t know if you’re serious in your comment after reading all the concerns written above.
Whew, this is the first long reply I made to commenters at one sitting and I initially logged-in as a guest. So, I have to repeat posting again. Luckily, I saved this comment in the notepad.
March 5th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
I missed writing @wiggles for the amusing remark.
March 5th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Nice article. Thanks for sharing!
—
On a more serious note.
An user commented on one of my “articles”, which talked about a bad PTC site and a ‘not guilty’ Paypal.
Her comment was “ur wrong cause payal is good and ptc site is scam, dont b stupid”.
Lolwut?
Still have no idea if she didn’t read the article or if she didn’t understand the irony in it.
March 5th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
This are some very good points mentioned here. I always read the articles that I am commenting on as otherwise it is very diffficult to make a meaningful comment.
I am so glad you pointed this out.
March 5th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
I’ve read lots of articles where I didn’t leave a comment because I had nothing meaningful to add. I appreciate others reading my work, but comments left just to show me that they were there aren’t very helpful.
When I really want to show support for someone’s submissions, I’ll click on the adsense ads.
March 5th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
On two occasions, I wrote to Triond editors sending them links of articles where I couldn’t understand even a single sentence. May be they were the products of some software. And on both the instances, Triond not only took off the articles but banned them too. Perhaps even the other articles written by them came under the same quality/category as the one I had pointed out.
The most curious point is that both these articles carried comments by Triond members that extolled them. Just guess how much they would have read. Because even the title was wrong in one of the instances.
I have personally written to a few people pointing out their mistakes. Some were gracious enough not only to make the corrections, but also thank me appropriately. But most people neither make the corrections or reply to the message. Obviously, they are annoyed. And I can see why. They can’t see their mistakes (tho’ I take care to point out only a few and not all of them), and they may think I am overbearing or jealous or whatever. Who knows.
The only suggestion I have is: Triond can have a group of honorary editors or mentors who can comment/correct, and the writers are assured that the comments are fair and are not vindictive.
I think I wrote the same advice while reading another article on the same subject.
March 5th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
An excellent article that is thought-provoking. I too have come across such comments. Many have just written comments like excellent article, wonderful, i visited yours and so pls visit mine, etc. These clearly shows that they are writing these comments to get views for their articles and doesn’t care about what is been written.
March 5th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Ha this is so true, I\’ve seen many brainless comments that were most likely cpoied then pasted on another article lol.
March 5th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Ha this is so true, I’ve seen many brainless comments that were most likely cpoied then pasted on another article lol.
March 6th, 2010 at 6:48 am
The only problem about having guest editors would be payment. Would you do it for nothing? Hell, no! What would be the point of Triond paying someone say a meagre dollar to edit an article that is going to make no money?
That is the crux – and the reason why the Triond editors have stopped editing. There is little time to do it as there are so many people now writing for Triond (well, some type stuff on a QWERTY keyboard and others filter stuff in their own language through a language filter and call themselves writers) that they would probably need a huge amount of editors to check each and every article.
So, they press the publish button and rely on others (us!) to point out when things are so outrageously badly written they should never have been published!
Of course there is another problem with guest editors. When would you get the time? I wouldn’t have the time – and certainly not if I was to do it for nothing. Plus of course it would just lengthen the time people have to wait for publication.
Finally there is no guarantee that the guest editors will have any finer grasp on the English language than the authors they are editing….
That turned out to be a gripe – wasn’t meant to. Ho hum, never mind!
March 6th, 2010 at 8:01 am
ang haba naman,napagod ako dun a…20x yatang mas mahaba ang comments kaysa article
March 6th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Thanks for the info. I wasn’t aware how much spamming was going on in Triond, I mean I am not surprised but it is a shame. This was a really good article its one of those things which just helps you get back to writing good pieces of work that you are happy with thanks again.
March 6th, 2010 at 9:23 am
I fear your plea to keep Triond free from rubbish articles is too late. As for ridiculous comments, well, I’ve seen many but the worst are the ones that say, ‘Great article, well done’, or words to that effect when an article is barely readable, the English is very bad and it doesn’t even make sense let alone have anything to do with the title.
I so want to comment ‘This article is disgraceful! (Not yours!) on many occasions but I refrain.
March 6th, 2010 at 10:25 am
I have noticed that rather than comments, at times you get a link to another site instead and it leaves me thinking oi you cheeky *******! lol.
March 6th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
yes this is so right, and people these days shouldn’t do things like that, and it gets very annoying when they do that
March 6th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Very good. Thanks for sharing.
March 6th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE SAY “THANKS FOR SHARING” OR “GREAT INFO” OR ANY OF THAT CRAP!
i agree with you completely. why cant people stop commenting like that? the person above me, lucia anna, obviously didnt read any of this article.
i have published a puzzle series, and when i asked for a solution to my puzzle, the first comment was “great info” or something like that… that didnt have anything to do with my article! it wasnt even information! this person didnt even bother reading the title of the article. how disgraceful?
March 6th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
This is so true. I regularly see comments such as. “Nice work”, or “Great article”. Although the commenter may have actually read the article, it still makes no difference. The writers want some “real” feedback, and they want you to share thoughts with them. Simply writing “Nice Work” doesn’t usually make much of a difference to most writers. Commenters should follow the phrase up with something less pointless. Such as pointing out the good highlights in the article.
And Lucia Anna obviously didn’t even read your article! What a shame. These people ought to be castrated without pain killers! The females too… somehow. (??)
March 7th, 2010 at 2:50 am
I agree with you. You have touch upon a very pertinent point or issue which every writer has to give a thought. As you have rightly mentioned, writing comment should not be for the sake of commenting. Comments should reflect and be related to the article written. Other than getting a good comments on an article written, pointing out good points or mistakes are like a booster and motivates the writer. I feel that is very important especially for new writers like me. Thanks for this wonderful write up.
March 7th, 2010 at 4:37 am
Interesting article. I leave comments short or long, to show I have read the work. Sometimes I am so busy and I click the I like button.
I have found a lot of my reading and writing time on Triond has been taken up with spammers. I spend time deleting comments and messages. If an article is illegible, I send it to the editors/publishers of Triond. Ninety nine % of the time Triond delete it, as it is proven spam.
I will privately message a person if there is a little typo.
I left a comment once that expressed the fact that I found the article failing. Everyone else had added profanity and discouraging words, mine were nothing like that at all, I had even left a little note of encouragement and support. The message I received in my inbox made me down tools, I was not going to be treated like that. The Triond I joined nearly three years ago, has changed and I have to accept that change or move on. I have stopped writing on Triond now, I read when I can but to be honest, that tends to be friends I have followed for some time now. I will comment on good quality articles of a non friend, and become a fan if the rest of the work is good quality.
Gosh what a ramble …sorry Patrick. Did I say Good article?
March 7th, 2010 at 4:42 am
PS: Stumbled this as I feel it is a message to be spread.
March 7th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Very informative article, I do read every article from top to bottom because I don’t want to miss out on anything. But I agree if we can send them a personal note in their inbox they would greatly appreciate the honesty. Because I know I surely would. Keep doing what we love everybody write,write,write.
March 7th, 2010 at 7:17 am
Thanks, I haven’t noticed that on my articles but I can see why there would be the need to write this article.
March 7th, 2010 at 8:32 am
http://dollarclickorsignup.com/members/register.php?ref=Rockwall
March 7th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Spammers are worse than non readers!!! Thank you Rockwall, I will rush right over to that link…NOT
March 7th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Nice poetry lol…. Kidding
A lot of Triond user do this. They reply short maybe because they are out of words…. or simply they just don’t know what to comment especially when the article is really bad. For me its ok to comment very short, the important thing is that they had checked on your article. You know how it goes here? The give and take…. Short and obvious ‘didn’t read’ comments however reflect on the commenter… so I agree with you… Caution: Read the article…. And its really funny when the commenter address the writer not be his name… that happens most of the time. A good read. Thanks for sharing this Glynis (got this fr SU ) and Patrick… good article.
Warmest regards,
Mae
March 7th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Nice article except for one glaring omission, if the commenter actually took the time to read the article, then he/she is deprived of the opportunity to make an ass out of themselves. Where’s the fun in NOT being able to do that? We all need a laugh now and then, besides politics, and completely off-the-wall comments is a laugh at times.
March 7th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
I got to give you Kuddos on this article, Patrick. Seldom to do I do a double take on an article for the comments. This is no doubt a talker subject in Triond. It is better than a forum.
March 7th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
I agree. I am always getting comments that say nothing more than “good article” or something to that effect, sometimes from the same person on multiple articles in a matter of minutes. It’s so obvious they didn’t actually read any of my articles! Do people really think I’m going to read their work just because they left a comment when I know they didn’t really read mine?
March 7th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
look at the bright side… i already have 300+ friends here, i want to help them all in my simple way, my 1 view still count, right?! how can i read all of their article in one day? so, simple comments gives you more views! but… i love to read a very interesting articles, like this one! good job, kabayan, pero natamaan ako! hehehe…
March 7th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
I simply don’t comment at all anymore if I have nothing to say or if I don’t have the time.
Furthermore, the more honest criticisms you place on the newcomers articles, the more sensitive, and sometimes nasty they become.
Stickman is right. The site is already compromised. I don’t want my reputation to be soiled by all of the horrible so-called spammers on here. That’s why I am writing for other sites.
Let’s be honest. Most of us do this for the money, and it’s certainly not on this site. I’m not trying to be a writer, I’m trying to be an archaeologist that writes from time to time and actually makes great money.
I think the main reason I actually stopped commenting was because of the ridiculous amounts of incoherent and useless comments left on my articles.
This is a fantastic piece Patrick.
March 7th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Excellent article. When I first started out writing online about 2 years ago, I chose Triond. I have not posted much for the past 6 months or so because of comments like those you mentioned or practically no comments at all. I felt like I needed to be among the cliquish few to even draw views at all.
And don’t get me started on the Hot Content list.
I write for Helium now, and find their rating system very fair because you don’t know who the author is. The pay is quite good and if you don’t measure up to their high standards as a writer, your account is closed. My account is still open so I must be doing something correctly.
I had such high hopes for this site and the stuff they publish has at times made my jaw drop.
Writing, NO. Crap, yes. It truely made me sad to depart due to some of the friends I made here, but everytime I post something, the disappoinment just gets worse.
Good luck to those of you who remain.
March 7th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Good post.Thank you.
March 7th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
A good time for this article. I wrote an article about the life and death of a dog my family had years ago. Someone wrote cute fellow and now he has a good home. Did they mean he has a good home in heaven? I sometimes write short comments if I am busy or the post was not of interest to me and longer ones if I liked the article.
March 7th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Yes, yes, I agree with you as well. We have genuinely good writers at Triond who are in earnset, check their works and put out great copy. Too bad for the ones who are not serious! I enjoyed your article very much!
March 7th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
You make some outstanding points. Too often, I’ve gone back and actually deleted comments that seem to be completely spammy or are totally inappropriate. No sense in giving these people any more attention than they already get!
March 7th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
IDK
March 8th, 2010 at 1:31 am
Good to read this sobering piece of advice although I am prepared to have non-interested parties just clicking in rather then reading, or seeing very shallow, irrelevent writes from some would be writers. Too bad for those writers.
March 8th, 2010 at 2:13 am
Just to Play Devils Advocate
“Nice Article”
“I Liked it”
“Good Work”
“Very True”
“Nice job”
“Good read”
March 8th, 2010 at 2:15 am
A very good awareness on blogers and writers especially
those who just want a feedback. Good output!
March 8th, 2010 at 3:10 am
I agree with you 100%. It actually really annoys me when people just comment saying ”nice share” when they clearly haven’t read anything. I mean, I appreciate their view as it raises my earnings, but I’d prefer people only to comment if they have something to say about the actual article.
March 8th, 2010 at 11:04 am
excellent share
March 8th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
This article was clearly computer generated.
@albert1jemi you are such a douche.
March 8th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Very convicting article. The way we comment reflects on us as a reader, and that transfers to the integrity of our work writing, which is what we’re all here for!
March 8th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
tl;dr
March 8th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
TL;DR
March 9th, 2010 at 11:22 am
After thoroughly reading your article, I too share in your sentiments. When I decided to write articles and submit them on the Triond site, I looked read the articles by the other writers and took the time to carefully read the comments. Although, I found the comments to be “fake” and “manufactured” and “quite boring” I came to conclusion that perhaps the commentators couldn’t find any other type of words to write. It’s too bad, however, we live in a world that doesn’t teach above average writing skills. On the other spectrum, I homeschool my teenager because I wasn’t pleased with the writing curriculum in the local school. My teenager is an excellent writer because I forced the issue from an early age. Thank you for sharing your thoughts in a well-written article. Have a wonderful day!
March 9th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Interestingly, I made a similar comment on an article which had clearly been garbled beyond recognition by spin software. All of the previous comments on this piece had been very supportive.
What makes this interesting to me is that I have since been ‘de-friended’ by one of those writers whose positive remarks preceded my own comment.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
One more thing that Cutest Princess’ comment brings to mind: this obsession with accumulating friends – in numbers that preclude any possibility that you can have a genuinely reciprocal association with them all.
I see no point in adding the names of other writers to a “friends” list if you can’t, or perhaps don’t even intend to, read their work and leave meaningful comments.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
I, like BullwinkleMuse, recently exposed a plagiarist in the comment section of one their articles; and I was astounded by the amount of positive comments that the offender had received. These comments were left by writers who are considered to be some of Trionds best; but as you have said, they clearly didn’t read any of the article. This annoys me for two reasons:
1. I take the time to read every word, of every article that I click on, so what makes them so special?
2. By not reading the article, they are essentially assisting the plagiarist. Albeit unknowingly.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
fake comments are an interesting issue–I suppose fake stats can result–I am amazed that anyone can make any real money on a site like this–I’m also amazed at the apparent success of garbled articles–you wonder what the future of literature is–I mean, spell check–grammar check–they’ve been invented, but some apparently successful writers never use such–I like Triond a lot, and prefer a more open atmosphere, and enjoy some folks new to English, it seems, participating–I would like to see more good poetry,and serialized novels–as for you criminals–let me take out my sword and whip and thrash you–take that–and that–
March 9th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
I have noticed this many times as well… I am able to tell now whether someone has really read my article or not from the comment they have left….
March 9th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
I totally agree with you………………a very important issue which need to be addressed.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Very true. Unless your Triond relationship is one where both parties agree to the -you click me….I click you deal, then the reader should show the respect of making a logical comment or just not comment at all.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Nice one! You are really thourough. And from what you say that really is true based on what I see.
March 10th, 2010 at 2:52 am
Quality is a very central issue for writing sites. It seems that due to cost and resource restraints many sites adopt a policy like large software vendors. Let the users point out bugs and errors.
When I stumble onto an article, which is barely legible or has more mistakes than correct words, I try to give constructive feedback. It takes so much time and effort to find the right balance between giving helpful feedback and refraining from saying something condescending like “Learn proper spelling!”. Saying something negative doesn’t really help the writer.
New ‘writers’ sending direct e-mail saying “Click my ads and I will click yours!” are getting more common. It is very annoying when you click and find a five line article, which makes no sense but has some comments like “Awesome”, “fantastic” etc.
March 10th, 2010 at 9:42 am
I always read the articles I comment on. Unfortunately, it\’s not always easy to come up with comments in some articles. So, oftentimes, I only come up with \’nice info\’ comment. Not sure if the writers thought I left comments without reading. Nice article pointing out other writer\’s mistakes
March 10th, 2010 at 11:10 am
I give some thought to my comments on Triond articles – thank you for reinforcing the guidelines for me.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Yep! Your article is so on time, and I am glad you wrote about it. It certainly is a problem with spam comments. I hope people now have a little insight to what they are doing does not help the writer’s article.
March 10th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
Interesting point. I think I will also work on my commenting and try to give more feedback about what I actually read.
~Also I love how you respond to almost everyone who comments. It shows that you do truly care about your comments.
March 11th, 2010 at 12:22 am
I do appreciate each one’s comment. I read all of them and came up with a summary in my article titled “Seven Types of Online Writers and What They Say About Commenting on Articles”. I do hope I gave justice to everyone’s comments. Thank you everyone for airing your concerns. I would reciprocate the gesture but gradually.
March 14th, 2010 at 12:10 am
wowowoa wee
what an awesome response here.
Comments are the way to go whether short or long.
As long as it is truthful, we all know who reads and who doesn’t, I just don’t bother to return a comment if one is rude enough to say the same thing every time where where.
Plus I personally feel a link to ones work on your page when commenting is the hight of rude=spammer.
So I write to them saying how rude, giving them a chance cos that is just how I am, then if it doesn’t change then I block easy as that.
I want to say a lot more but will stop for just now and I am spreading this write all over the net.
Smiles good day to you all..
Fantastic Patrick
December 13th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and ideas concerning the comments that readers write. I don’t agree with wholeheartedly because the reader is in control of their comments. They write what they feel or perhaps they’re not commenting the way you would like them to. Also, don’t look into the reader’s comments so deeply and don’t rely on them to be the “critic” of your article.
I notice on the articles that I write, the comments are short. I don’t really care if they’re happy about what I wrote or not. I tend to move on and search for new articles to write about.