Why Your Triond Articles are Always Dying
Your articles are dying. Would you believe that Triond may be one of the reasons why?
For a while, let’s picture of your article as a plant. First, a seed of idea pops in your head. You research, analyze, write the draft and do some editing. The seed grows into a sprout with a few tiny leaves.
Then you publish it at Triond. You planted the sprout in the healthy soil of one of Triond’s network websites.
The sprout starts to grow more leaves as the article receives some views and comments. Your sprout is now a grown plant!
And then after a few days, after all your friends have commented and the fuzz about your new article had subsided, you start noticing the number of views on your article is dwindling. You start noticing dried leaves on your plant.
And it won’t be long before your plant loses all its leaves and eventually withers and become a fertilizer to the healthy soil of Triond.
The Triond Article Life Cycle
That, my friend, is what I call the Triond Article Life Cycle.
You publish your article. It receives some views and comments. Then it drowns in the multitude of other Triond articles. Everyone will forget about it as though it had never been written.
For the few successful articles, the life cycle period can last for years. But for most of the Triond articles, the period is mostly short, about one to two months or even shorter.
Triond Doesn’t Care About Your Old Articles
One of the reasons why your articles die early is because Triond doesn’t care about your old articles. Triond put more focus on new articles. Here are the proofs:
Look at your Triond Dashboard, what are the ages of the articles that you see? All or most of them are NEW, right?
Those in the News Feed list are the newly published articles of your friends. Most of the articles in the Hot Content list are less than a month old. Even the articles in the Popular Articles list on every Triond’s websites are one month old or less.
Triond Only Gives Limited Water and Sunlight
Continuing our article-plant analogy, our plant doesn’t only need a good seed or a good soil to grow fully into a sturdy tree. It also needs water and sunlight.
Triond provides these water and sunlight. The links we get from Triond when our articles are new represents the water and the visibility and spotlight that Triond gives represents the sunlight.
We get views and comments in the first days of our articles because Triond makes them visible (sunlight) to our friends through their dashboards. We also get links (water) from related articles and from our own Triond profiles.
However, the water and sunlight that Triond gives are limited. Once new articles are published, Triond would take away visibility from you article and give it to the new article. The same will happen to the new article once newer articles are published.
Why Your Articles Are Always Dying
Without visibility, your article will not get any views. Without water and sunlight, your plant will not grow anymore. Its leaves will dry up and soon the whole plant will wither.
Your articles are always dying because of the lack of visibility and links.
If we can make our articles always visible then it will always be read by interested readers. If we can make our articles always visible then our articles won’t stop earning weeks and months after we have published them. If we can make our articles always visible, we don’t have to push ourselves to write more articles than we can handle.
Then we can fulfill the dream of having a steady source of passive income from Triond.
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September 6th, 2010 at 12:00 am
I guess it’s like treating your article as news….they stay fresh only for while….after that, who knows what happens.
September 6th, 2010 at 12:43 am
This is a good analysis. I would prefer Bukisa over Triond when it comes to the water and sunlight, for my plants, if they were to come from the publishing platform.
September 6th, 2010 at 2:39 am
Fantastic insight and delivery. Explained clearly and more importantly, you are absolutely right. Triond does only so much and we also only do so much, so if we want more from our Triond experience, then we must go that extra mile to succeed.
This is the reason, we need to learn to use social media properly without spamming or breaking any TOS rules. If the existing communities of these social medias accept our invitations, then our articles can possibly garner a steady stream of readers/views over a longer period of time.
Nelson Doyle
September 6th, 2010 at 2:44 am
nice my friend. keep it up! try to make quality articles
September 6th, 2010 at 6:46 am
Very nice share…….
September 6th, 2010 at 7:10 am
Thanks for the insightful comments and encouragement to all of you. This comments really mean a lot!
Thanks!
September 6th, 2010 at 7:16 am
Brewed Coffee,
My end goal really is for other Triond writers to stop treating their articles as news items. As you’ve said news items are only fresh for a while and after that, most of them get buried in history.
I want Triond writers to treat their articles as something superior than news items.
Triond articles can be more than news items only if we can give them more visibility. And to give our Triond articles more visibility is to find other ways of attracting traffic, or to find other sites which will give them more views.
September 6th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Fornis,
Thanks! I have read in your articles your reasons for choosing Bukisa over Triond.
But I have also read in your article comparing the features of Bukisa and Triond where you said that Triond has a better feature (Feature 3) at promoting articles with your articles. This is because Bukisa have a “no follow” tag.
Does Bukisa still have “no follow” tags?
I think Triond can give more visibility to articles than Bukisa. But I can’t really tell because I have not written for Bukisa yet.
September 6th, 2010 at 7:38 am
Nelson Doyle,
First of all thank you for commenting on my article. I remember you are the most popular writers here at Triond when I joined back in 2008. I really look up to you.
I also want to learn what made your articles successful? Is it because of the use of social media as you have said in the comment? Or did you use other techniques or strategies?
I really hope you would answer this question in this comment or in one of your articles. Or maybe you have written about it already, I would very much like to read it.
Thanks again!
September 6th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Isn’t your analogy just simple life? “What have you done for me lately?” This is the way things work in life. No one will hold your hand all the time, all the way through everything you do. Triond is a good site to plant your ideas and get a response so you can sharpen your skills and find out what works and what doesn’t. Beyond that, it is up to you to market what you have sown. You can do anything you want with your articles after you use Triond. As I mentioned to you before, key words (SEO tips), especially in your titles will keep your artcles alive. I still have many Triond articles that I wrote more than two years ago reaping views and revenue. Caution: Do not discount Triond writers helping to keep your articles alive. If they like your material, they will submit them to other social sites such as StumbleUpon, Digg and the like.
September 6th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Am I the only one that takes responsibility for watering my “articles” by sharing them on LInkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, etc. Please share with me – is this not a good idea? I admit, it hasn’t provided enough water to keep the plants growing at a steady rate; however, the added bonus is that people see my name in front of them again and may even read my past articles.
Please let me know your thoughts.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
Westbrook,
It is really up to us to market our articles, to give them the water and sunlight that they need. We don\’t have to depend on Triond or other writing sites to do it for us.
And yes, having friends who would certainly help in promoting our articles.
Thanks!
September 7th, 2010 at 12:01 am
Borlok VA,
Yes, you are right! We should water and give sunlight to our articles by sharing them on social networking sites.
But as you’ve said, they are not enough to keep the plants growing at a steady rate.
That is what I am trying to find out. How to keep our articles growing at a steady rate? Or how can we harness their maximum potential?
September 7th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Hello Richie,
I have noticed that from your comments on others’ articles, you are ready to confront writers with your serious questions rather than settling for being a scavenger even when you don’t have the clue yet. Keep it up.
You are trying to face the problem head on. This attitude will get you the answers you seek. Don’t lose hope. Even if you fail to succeed here, you would at other sites.
September 7th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Yes, Bukisa still has nofollow tag and they are hell bent on it when I asked them to remove. They said their study found it to be better than without it. In the hell, I never understood how it could be. I stopped bothering about it as my experiments on Triond showed results less than anticipated. However it helps a lot for Bukisa to let it free.
So far my experiments showed that Bukisa is very strong on article by article comparison with Triond and also strong with set by set. Bukisa’s quick success is build on their older article marketing site articlebase.com, one of the most popular article marketing sites today. Second to ezinearticles.com.
Triond gives you temporary visibility. That is depreciating with time. Bukisa gives you visibility that if at all visible it only grows with time. But what you cannot post at Bukisa, you can post that here. I like that aspect of Triond.
I just have one project pending for Triond. After that I will be off to Bukisa to test its limits.
September 7th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Is this your blog?
honestley.blogspot.com/
September 7th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
That was a little embarrassing for me. I used twitter to tweet but not to understand the meaning of Retweets. Now I found the right one. Movies News.
Your blog is looking great. I like watching movies. If you have some good reviews, I would check them out. It looks like a new one (page rank 0). It is a registered domain. But that doesn’t matter.
It’s hard to navigate through the blog. Where are the archives?
September 8th, 2010 at 4:42 am
i am getting a little discouraged to be honest. the whole august i submitted an article everyday but even with the bonus, i earned less than my june earning when promoted my articles in sites like digg etc. but then, views just spiked for that period and went back down again. i’m running out of ideas.
September 8th, 2010 at 6:09 am
But it is the same with all writing. You write a novel and then another and another. As time goes by they sink into the mass of other published book, forgotten on the shelves. Wanting the New is the way of the world. The answer is to keep writing, article after article – the point is that while you are supplying the need for the New your name is becoming known, maybe not by the whole world – we can’t all be J K Rowling. There will always be a need for the New – jump on the bandwagon.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:17 am
Nice, Ive tried to earn some cash this way, but i have articles with over 20 views and not even e penny earned…
September 8th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
@bellatwix,
I told you where the bonus is going to come from. I have noticed earnings rate reduction from June to July and warned that they will certainly do the same from July to August and distract our attention towards. My August earnings are half of the month of June for the same number of views (including the bonus). My July earnings were 37% less than June month’s earnings.
Don’t say I didn’t warn about this coming.
Triond Earnings Rate Reduction From June to July 2010
September 9th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Fornis,
Thank you for noticing how I comment on other Triond articles. I don’t really bother commenting on those articles when I don’t really have something to say. I don’t just go there and say “great article”. Like you said, that would be a waste of time. I keep my comments as valuable as I always do with my articles.
I also like the aspect of Triond that you can post virtually anything here. I am a little scared posting for Bukisa because it seems they only accept how-to and list type articles. But I will write for Bukisa soon.
How does the visibility that Bukisa gives grows with time?
September 9th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
I learned about this commenting idea to reach hot content in the last year and tried the same. I used effective ways such as using Google reader to save time. But it didn’t work out as expected. Very few reciprocate in time. We need to continue that time waste activity till many friends feels obligated to comment on ours. Since then I stopped it. I could write plenty of articles and learn a lot by writing test articles with that time. I usually reciprocate for few friends or comment on articles arising my curiosity.
For the last two days, I have been trying to get comments (from others) to my latest article so that it gets on to the popular article list (not hot content list). It got there though at the last position. The reason I tried this is because that sends traffic from Triond users which is my intended audience when I write articles about writing or earnings from these sites (that is third type of writing).
I also noticed that I have improved in speed reading by trying to read many articles in one go. However that does not help in my production work though it helps in random writing. We know what random writing is worth. Now that it got there it is enough of time for me.
Anyway it doesn’t matter. Some serious users will dig into articles when they are desperate to learn. That’s how I used to get comments on my older articles about writing (that comparing features articles). I will stick to that. Why should I bother reaching audience when the help intended for them? I have a lot of pending work to do and no time to spare. I got to go to work.
The visibility with Bukisa can only grow with time. We share under a cc license by default (remember). Btw, are you writing any test articles? You seem to be busy with daily life??
September 10th, 2010 at 9:35 am
So true… I just get only a few views in the first few days. Then, they maintain at 0 afterward.
September 11th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
My most-read articles are older, well-trafficked and still money cows. I wish I had 100 more just like ‘em!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:47 am
bellatwix,
I don’t recommend writing articles everyday because you will easily run out of ideas that way.
However, I do recommend focusing on the articles that gives the most results and writing more of them. This is an advice I learned from a friend here at Triond.
Look at your Content Page and see which articles you have written have the most views and earnings. And focus on writing more of them.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Gwen Madoc,
Taking your novel writing analogy, yes, there are those novels which are forgotten on the shelves. But there are also those which the readers really love. They love the novel so much they share it with their friends (which is how social networking websites work).
Or there are those novels which became very useful that they become resources for other writers. So when a writer is looking for a novel on this topic, the librarian would recommend that novel (which is roughly how search engines work.)
September 12th, 2010 at 8:59 am
N1GHTM4R3
That is because some sites here at Triond have low rate of earning or what they call eCPM, effective cost per thousand. That’s the amount you earn for every one thousand views for your article.
If you write for sites like Gomestic, Healthmad, Scienceray, you will get a higher eCPM than writing for other sites.
The site that your article will be published depends on the topic of your article.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Fornis,
Yes, I am kind of busy with my daily life. I also have a day job right now. But I try to write an article every week, even if it is a random writing or a test article.
By the way, about the visibility that Bukisa gives, I really want to see the cc license in action. I want to see a Bukisa article that has been copied somewhere and linked to.
Thanks! And good luck to your pending works!
September 12th, 2010 at 9:08 am
raymondchieng,
I can see you are new here at Triond. And maybe you are new to online writing.
What I can say is that you should read and start learning. You should know which topics attracts more readers. And which topics earn more.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:16 am
thestickman,
That is what I would also like to achieve. I want to have more articles which are earning even if I don’t promote them.
Can you tell me which article is it? Thanks!
September 18th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
I feel that articles don’t die unless you believe the living dead. What actually happens is that they drown in the deep ocean called web. Digg site is built on this concept. They dig up from the ocean those articles/web pages that multiple users give a hand to. Slowly it turned out to yet another time waste site. Stumble-upon was no exception, though it gives more views than digg on average.
I gave the example of letting older articles float by changing them. So no article or page on the web really dies. They only take birth. Death is only for the URL which we call as “dead link”. You take off an article off the web or change its URL, you consider it dead.
September 18th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Or consider it taking birth with a new identity (URL). Last week I found a good use of this.
Thanks. I too am busy with a day job. But I learned to make time for writing for Triond. I just take off all the time for other activities like blogging, twitter, commenting when finishing article writing. I make some sacrifices too. Something has to give in. Writing an article a week is very poor as it will never let you know the worth of earning from article. It does not matter if you write regularly or once in a period of time but the more articles means success as we have this randomness attributed to article success ratio.
September 18th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
On the backlinks that we get out of cc license are not controlled by us except for the choice of the topic. If you write an article for ezinearticles or articlebase.com which work on similar to cc-license mechanism you would have seen that in action. However it is interesting to see this on some Bukisa articles as well.
For example you can go this page and find two articles on right side:
Eenadu Telugu News Paper on Sunday
Sakshi Telugu News Paper – Sakshi Family for Kids, Day to Day …
Currently they are positioned at 3rd and 4th places which may change with time. These mostly bots looking on the web for some links related to some topic to post on their site to have fresh content on their site.
Now here is one page which copied my article without following cc-license rule(no credit link given).
We cannot waste our time about these silly things. But I consider that as a vote of appreciation on my article as they were sharing on their webpage. It may be that they are new to online to know the CC L rules. Or they just didn’t want to whcih was bad on their part.
But I don’t bother about that as long as it is random and nobody is repeating that on all of my articles. That would make us feel bad. What matters is if atleast some of those copiers give a link back. We are the source. With time we will get more links that the copiers themselves can get. Having seen the web for four years, I can’t ignore the value of time.
Here is a page that copied but gave link for the same article. There can be more pages that are giving links but if they don’t show up when we search them in Google or other popular sites, they aren’t worth to be considered. They must have failed out of their own randomness. Some succeed which I could show as examples.
Also not all articles we write get links. First the article atleast should be visible to outsiders. It should stay afloat even if the views are one view per week. The visibility lifts up as these links build-up. How many links build-up is proportional to the number of views it gets. The more views an article gets the more chances of getting links in a period of time. And the more and more success to it. It gets into geometric progression. All we can do is improve the success ratio to some extent and keep posting at Bukisa or with cc-license footnote embedded in the article if posted at Triond and wait for the time when due to the same random success some become exponentially successful so much that they get links and multiply their success. When that happens we get a lift-off or sweet bonus for all time to come.
If cc-licensing didn’t work, Simon, the genius, wouldn’t have created Bukisa which is similar to his older site articlebase.com. Articlebase is today one of the most popular article marketing site second only to ezinearticles. It’s not that the 3 guys behind Triond are bad. They have the patience of a job. But they didn’t put the default option of cc-license for our content just so we retain copyright to our articles. However we can include a cc-license footnote to each article if we want. But I always forget to do that.
September 18th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
And note that every such cc-license link counts. They are more helpful than digg or stumble-upon links when looking at their impact on indirect traffic they provide. Digg & Stumble-upon are suckers. They suck the blood out of us and give some liquor in return. The moment I found that I stopped logging into them.
December 6th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
To get more traffic you can backlink your triond articles at other google adsense revenue sites.Choose related keywords and write more articles or bookmarks.