The Saddest Part of Writing for Triond
The saddest part of writing for Triond is that sometimes it feels like your greatest articles are not worth reading because they are not earning.
I joined Triond with the intent to earn from the ideas that I want to share with the online world. Be it poems, my ideas about writing, and other stuff. I hold on to the promise that I can make money online doing what I love – writing. And in the end, to create a steady source of passive income that will help me in my quest to financial freedom.
And so I wrote my poems and other stuff. During the first few weeks, I was overwhelmed with the views that I got. I got about an average of ten views per article. And there were comments from fellow Triond writers! It felt awesome! I am being read!
Then the saddest part of writing for Triond happened
After weeks of being published, the views began to trickle down to one view per day, until there were no more views at all. Not a single one.
That was my saddest part of writing for Triond.
It seemed like the article I had created, loved and cared for had met its lonely end. It felt like I’d just lost a close companion. It was my article’s death day, without any promise that it will be born again.
And all of my articles follow this timeline I called The Triond Article Life Cycle. They were born. They get some views and comments. And then they die.
How can I make a steady source of passive income if my articles keep on dying, right?
On writing more articles everyday
But when I read the stories of other Triond writers, they seem to be contented with it. They seem to accept it as a fact of life. And it’s like the only way to increase the earnings is to write more articles everyday.
Writing more articles everyday is against my idea of a steady source of passive income because when you say passive, it means you only give a small amount of your time for your investment to make money.
And then there are those articles in the hottest content list and those which are very popular in their own websites. Those popular articles must be raking in money for their writers. And I assume those articles won’t die in the following week like how my article did.
Are these articles popular because their writers write more articles everyday? I don’t think so. Then I thought there must be something more to earning from Triond than writing more articles everyday.
I thought there must be two reasons my articles died the way they did:
1. I am doing something wrong which means my writing is not good enough; or
2. I am not doing the right thing which means there must be something more that I should do.
I intend to improve my writing. But I am more inclined to find out what more should I do to have those popular articles. I want to prevent my articles from dying.
Here are other articles I’ve written for Triond:
How to Create an Endless Cash Flow from Triond
Content Writing for Triond Can be a Continuous Source of Passive Income
Of Watches and Making Love (Poetry)
Read more articles in this series:
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August 30th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Richie, I have been writing on Triond for probably 4 years or more. I have seen many writers come and go and I have seen very good articles that do not get much attention and very poorly written ones that get a lot of attention. I have submitted and published articles regarding the so-called Hot Content” list. Check out the following articles: Triond Hot List, Triond Hot Content List: So, Whats-The-Secret? and Triond-is-a-great-place-to-learn-and-express-creativity. You could also get these articles by scrolling through my material from my profile. I did a lot of research to put these articles together. I think they may enlighten you. There are a couple things that I have learned about Triond. First, you have to make a lot of friends and you must comment on their material consistently in order to get them to read/comment on your material. I have gone for long periods of time without participating and except for a few articles, my views dwindle down during these periods. The exceptions are my articles that have hit a high position on the WWW because they appeal to a worldly audience, and in those cases, I continue to get a lot of views no matter how long I do not write. Check out my /il-silenzio-and-bugle-call-a-k-a-taps. Articles such as this continue to get a lot of views and earn a lot of money. Another thing I have discovered about Triond is that they use algorithms to determine who and what gets on the “hot content” and “hot topic” lists. Read my articles that I mentioned above to learn more about these issues. Since I put so much time into this comment, I may make an article of it and publish it. Hope this helps.
August 30th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
I rarely find an intelligent writer on Triond who learns about the article life cycle (as you said). So far you have seen only one side of the problem. When you get where you want to go (views) you will start noticing the deeper side of the problem (earnings rate reduction). But that is not important now.
Just to give you inspiration and lift your spirits up, I would share my little success story.
After looking at my Triond Content page (of 80 articles) for many days and studying them, I set on to write 101 articles in a professional way. This I called as PSIA (means Project SIA). All of these 101 articles get views every single day without my doing anything ever since I did last changes to them in the middle of May 2010. The daily average no. of views these get is 2000. Sometimes they get 1800 only and sometimes 2200.
Your dream of passive income is not dead. However I would question “steady source of passive income”. I am yet to find the next solution for steady source problem.
But I tell you the answer to your problem is in your “Triond Content” page. Go there, set the no. of article on page to 50 (default is 10). This will show you 50 articles per page. This helps you study no. of views in relation to article topic, category, title, network site easily.
You are led on the wrong road as many do. You don’t get passive income by commenting on others and expecting their reciprocation. Is it hard to calculate that you cannot earn for yourself by being yourself as an audience in this model?
The way to get passive income is to stop active income. You get article life cycle because you do that.
Just write articles for the next few days (and more of them not just ten or twenty) and don’t try to get any visitor from Triond.
This will show you how things work. You may hate me for not telling a clear idea of what exactly needs to be done or how exactly things work.
But believe me there is no easy answer for that. The answer is in you. You have to set out to find that. Stop being active on things other than writing and spend time looking at your Content page and analysing the results. You will be amazed at what you will learn and accomplish in the next two months if you do that.
I am glad you wrote an article asking a serious question. That is one of the first steps to success. Keep asking to yourself, why? how? what?
Why is it like this?
How should I fix this?
What should I do or learn?
As you do that you will find answers by looking for them. When you do you are on the right road (the passive income road).
August 30th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
All the best. Don’t hesitate to ask more questions.
August 30th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Richie, To avoid confusion, the 101 articles together are getting 2000 views/day. And they are never on the hot content list as my target audience is not Triond members. I didn’t like the idea of sucking Trionders to earn cents. There is a bigger world out there. Don’t waste time looking at or trying for hot content, they are not worth what they seem to be.
I am not going to take time to write an article on this. This reply is for you and anyone else reading this question.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Everyone goes through the same experience Richie. You’re right about the cycles our articles go through. It’s heartbreaking to see them die. I’m glad you wrote this one. I was able to read other articles related to this: the ones written by Fornis. I will also have to check Westbrook’s articles later. It’s great learning from the masters.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
“I joined Triond with the intent to earn from the ideas that I want to share with the online world.”
Never join a site like this with the intent to earn. It’s a publishing site, not a writing site, and the owners will always make more.
I’ve said it hundred times to hundred triond users. If you believe your work has more value, start a blog. I have three and make a living from them, on top of going to school full time.
Many of us left because of this very reason. Look at RJ Evans. He now has close to 10 sites and one of them, Kuriositas, gets hundreds upon thousands of views a month.
August 30th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
Thanks everyone for the insightful comments. I must say that these are the responses I am really looking for. I really appreciate these!
August 30th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
Westbrook,
I will definitely go through your articles about the Triond Hot List. I know I will learn a lot from your articles. But the thing I’m most interested is to know how to create articles which will hit a high position in the search engines so that they will still continue to receive views even long after they are published. In that case, they won’t die.
Thanks!
August 30th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Fornis,
Your response is really an eye-opener and your success story is very inspiring. This is the most unique advice I have received here in Triond. “The answer is in your Triond Content page” and “don’t try to get any visitors from Triond.” But it makes a lot of sense.
Also, I liked the idea that with your process, I don’t need to suck to other Triond members to earn. This is the process I want to learn. I will read your articles and see what I can get from them. I would also like to ask you more questions when I am already in the process.
Thanks a lot!
August 30th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Hi Rhodora Bande,
I am also glad that the senior Triond members are here to answer my question. I really learned a lot from the comments in this article. I hope other newbie members can read this too so they will know how to deal with their dying articles.
Good luck to both of us!
August 30th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
Hi Lauren,
I actually already have a blog. But it’s a niche blog, which only earns a little and only needs a little maintenance so I still have time to write.
I’ll visit your blogs and see what I can learn from them. Did you say you are earning a living from them? Cool. That is also what I want to achieve.
Your stories are really inspiring!
August 31st, 2010 at 1:04 am
Richie, don’t get so frustrated, ganyan din ang feelings ko noon, just wanted to show my writing skills and earn some cents from it. Yes, I agree with Lauren, Triond is not a writing site but a publishing site, and to answer your question. Guess you have to learn the tricks of the game. I mean the publishing side, negosyo ito pare, and learn to be a businessman, pag-aralan mo kung paanong ibenta ang paninda mo sa online market. dapat, always kang aware sa mga in na in na mga issue, then you make posts related to them. Got mo ba pare. Isa, pa having more articles means having more earnings in the long run. Though, siguro, pinagpala lang ako o yung ibang writers na we’ve come out with some articles na mabenta sa internet. Pre, Stumble upon is a good site na magbibigay sa iyo ng malaking viewership. And remeber, two-way street ang pinuntahan mo. give-and-take dito.
September 2nd, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Richie,
I am glad that you liked by response. You can checkout my new article along the same topic.
What is Your Articles Success Ratio (At Triond)?
September 3rd, 2010 at 6:06 am
Papaleng,
Thanks! I’m starting to feel the benefits of StumbleUpon. As of now, I’m still starting to find my niche, the genre that I will be successful. In your case, it seems your niche is in plants and animals with awesome photos.
I think what’s important in StumbleUpon is having something worth sharing.
You said: “having more articles means having more earnings in the long run”
Ideally that may be true. But as I said, my old articles are not earning anymore. Which means if I write more of them, then they will also get old and stop earning. Which means that only the new articles will be earning.
Thanks for the comment!
September 3rd, 2010 at 6:09 am
Fornis,
Wow! Thank you for writing that article! I hope you can write more articles that will shed light on “how” you improved your article success ratio.
Thanks!
September 5th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Nicely written!!
September 5th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
I had the same sentiments. But the opinions of the “masters” are real eye-openers.
September 6th, 2010 at 12:32 am
Richie, here is the one to your hope
Improving Article Success Ratio: Write Test Articles (Guinea Pigs)
September 6th, 2010 at 7:45 am
Fornis,
Thank you very much for writing that article. So that is how you improve your success ratio, writing test articles.
I thought your strategy for improving article success ratio is fixing the title and the text of your articles to make them more appealing to readers and to the world wide web.
Your articles really surprise me. I will love to read more from you about how to be successful here at Triond.
September 6th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Richie,
Yeah, that’s right. I only wrote the first article in that series. As it falls into my third type of writing, I don’t go at them all in one go. There are many ways to improve success ratio including your writing style. Choice of website (or network sites within Triond) is the primary one.
The idea of test drives me to write any number of articles on any topic at any time. I had spent lot of time in the last year testing in many ways. 2009 was a year of learning for me and a very good one at that compared to past years. 2010 is the beginning of actual action.
I slowly learned the hardship in writing. Your excitement and inspiration in random writing stays as long as you don’t get to solve the mystery to success. Once you do, you will find it hard to move on. The good thing here is you won’t quit after knowing that you are on the right road. On the other hand if you never get to find that road, you would eventually quit with such frustration that you wouldn’t even like to think about.
Nobert Soloria Bermosa is not only one of the most successful online article writers, his suggestions are wonderful. Without him I wouldn’t have taken it up seriously. Although I started online writing (Helium) in 2006, I did not take these seriously because I found much better ways to earn money than these activities. Until he revealed the idea of passive income in an eye-opening manner. You got to check out his articles.
My Little Success At Bukisa: Are There Secrets About Successful Online Writing? By Nobert Bermosa. That was a sweet article to read.
I wanted to beat his score this year at Bukisa. But I failed to after coming to Triond in the beginning of this year.
Another clever writer who inspired me is Chan Lee Peng. I take it as a challenge to beat their earnings. Nobert holds 2M views badge which means he is just short of 5M views out of 500+ articles.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
Fornis,
I didn’t know Nobert Soloria Bermosa is that successful in online writing.
Thank you for showing me this article. I know I will learn from this too as you have.
Thanks!
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:30 pm
I try to click in just one ad for every article I visit, though sometimes I forget or feel the author doesn’t deserve it. If everyone who reads articles did so, it would be a good way to get money.
As for the publishing, I registered in Triond a few months ago but I haven’t published a long article yet for many reasons:
First, and more important, I’m not a native speaker of English, so I’m very afraid of write something imcomprehensible. It would be fantastic if this site allowed to publish in Spanish or if I knew someone really fluent in English who could help me, but I don’t.
Second, I don’t know well how the process of publishing works. Okay, so you submit your draft and it gets instantly published as long as it’s in English. But then, what happens? Your article will be published in several websites apart from Triond, but how are these sites chosen? Depending on the subject, clue words, title, tags? Clicking the ads is the only way to get revenue, and the number of comments and “liked it” doesn’t matter?
And third, how can protect your work from plagiarism? Does these websites where your articles are published recognize you as the author?
I would be very grateful if someone can explain these things to me, either commenting on this article or sending me a message, specially if it’s someone experienced. Sure more people will find the reply useful.
November 3rd, 2010 at 8:15 am
Keneu,
You don’t really have to click on the ads if you are not interested in them. Although I would like to earn, I am afraid that Google Adsense may detect it as click fraud.
I am not that experienced here in Triond but I hope I can answer your questions.
The websites where our articles are published are owned by Triond. The website is chosen depending on the category and tags we add to our article.
The number of comments and likes is not a measure of revenue. Triond gets revenue when readers click on ads. Triond share that revenue with us.
Yes, we are recognized as authors of the articles we publish. You will see your name in the by-line.
Hope that answers your question. I will send this reply to you through private message to make sure you get them. Thanks!
November 5th, 2010 at 10:25 am
Is there any reason why you cannot revisit your articles, pull them if necessary and rework them in a way that might encourage wider appeal ?
November 5th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Neville,
For some articles that may be possible.. But to most articles, I think it is not.